Owners – Lisa & Liv
I was approached early this week to do a Crowen panel – get a set of questions together and ask Crowen shippers and a couple of non-Crowen shippers to share their perspectives on the ship & their viewpoints. Honestly, the first thought that crossed my mind is that Greys Gabble is United Nations of Greys. While both Lisa and I have our personal ships – we never will want this to reflect onto GG. And honestly, since taking GG over I don’t have much time to ship. But I love every character- some less, some more – but I appreciate the process of Grey’s Anatomy!
With that said, I realize that we all claim to have Ph.D.’s on Grey’s – we all claim to know why and how these ships work or why/how they don’t! So instead of trying to convince or make anyone understand the depths of Crowen – I thought a panel was a brilliant idea.
As some of you may or may not know-Lisa ships Crowen. I do not ship Crowen, but I root for them, I hope for them! And my experience with Crowen shippers is that most of them are kind and non-judgmental of other ships on the show (as it should be-there’s no competition or contest, these ships coexist on the show and their shippers in the fandom should as well). Yet most of what you hear about Crowen is that they’re in trouble! They don’t belong together! Crowen’s relationship is only physical! The issue of having a child is their “deal-breaker”-The list goes on and on yet unfortunately, often the opinions of the Crowen fans aren’t included in said list.
Because of the suggestion, we realized that every ship (and their fandom) deserves to have a voice. With this Crowen panel we wanted to give the opportunity for shippers to have that voice, to view this pairing through the eyes of shippers, and also to allow shippers and non-shippers to express their opinions on the pairing in an articulate, sane – and unapologetically passionate – way.
Here’s the panel of amazing souls who get Crowen and one or two that claim to get Crowen but doesn’t necessarily believe that Crowen is best as one…. Liv
1) What originally drew you to the pairing of Crowen and what do you think makes their relationship unique?
@crowen4ever: I was already a huge fan of Cristina, and of course Sandra OH, who I just think is amazing. I remember watching the season 5 premier; there was a moment where I shouted out “He’s going to be Cristina’s love interest”! – Now this is before I really started reading spoilers, So I wasn’t aware he was coming back. Something about their scenes. It was when she was stapling up his leg. Just to see Cristina be taken back by someone, it was just really lovely…Like Cristina; I think Owen Hunt had us all at “So?” I’m so happy Shonda introduced Kevin McKidd to us. KENDRA a.k.a Sandra & Kevin have some amazing chemistry.
EllaMarie: In S.5 Cristina was a broken survivor ready to rejoin life and Owen was the first man who saw her as she was, was drawn to her as the person he saw her to be, and communicated with her from the status of being equals. Owen was a strong man not at all intimidated by Cristina’s outer shell or her bravado and yet he never shied from showing his vulnerability and thoughtfulness even in their first exchanges. Their uniqueness, to me, stems from their ability to see each other more clearly through the others’ eyes than they do sometimes through their own. The love and support and faults they reflect back to each other informs who they are and helps them grow in ways that resonates with me, making them a stronger force together than either have been singularly or could be apart.
@kayright: I have always been a big fan of Cristina’s character. She is career driven and makes no apologies for it, she is deliciously sarcastic and most of all she has a good heart. A precious heart that she does not share with everyone… We saw her do it with Burke and slowly we saw her losing herself (and her eyebrows!). And Owen! Love Owen, he’s my guy! Actually no! He’s my man! Owen came into the picture and immediately established his masculinity, his tough attitude, his strong stances he was appealing because he was a nice opposition to Derek’s dreamy, romantic, sensitive type and Mark’s shallow vanity. What I’m saying is: I love Cristina and Owen as individuals! And that’s where it all starts! A shipper must love the two people in the couple individually, in order to want what is best for both characters.
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The name is GreytXcape, in homage to my love for The X-Files, Grey’s Anatomy, and TV’s overall ability to serve as a getaway from reality Hailing from the city of the White Sox and Bears, Chicago, I’m a thirtysomething female who loves God and connecting with people.
I believe that living on purpose, loving self and others, and adding laughter can take you a long way. I dig diversity, dabble in writing, and am devoted to my country. As for GA, I have absolutely no idea when I became a fan, but I’m glad I am one.
My favorites are as follows:
Season: 6, Character: Arizona,
Quote: “We’re adults. When did that happen? And how do we make it stop?”.
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Lisa & Liv
Gabblers- Welcome to Lets Discuss the final 4 for season 9- now beware you could consider this to be a bit spoilerish but these are the opinions and feelings of this grey group of gals that we have chosen. We have our reviewers: @allie_gg who discusses GA every week here at GG, @pamfier who writes GG’s MerDer reviews, @silverscwolf whose name is Amanda and is one half of TSG Podcast who writes GG’s Jolex reviews and our love @sportsfan12921 who gives GG the weekly scoop on Calzona. We also called in some of our grey friends as we want to get you all perspectives possible of what is to come- we have the amazing @kayright who is the other half of TSG Podcast ( she has the hot French accent), Our dear friend that wants to be referred to as “L” but make no mistake Miss “L” knows Greys all too well! And @safeaudme aka Sam who speaks Greys fluently!! We compiled a list of questions and want to know what these gals think is going to happen in the final 4 episodes and what shall Shonda bring at the end of episode 9.24?? Here is what they have to say:
What are your predictions & hopes for the season finale 9.24?
@allie_gg: As with most die-hard fans, you hope for something that will leave your mind at ease while it anxiously and impatiently waits for the show to return in September. Alas, that is not how Shondaland works…. prediction? A cliffhanger that leaves the fate of one of the originals in danger…. Note I say originals, not newbies. I’m not sure fans are truly committed to the interns yet, enough that they would care if something dreadful happened to them anyway… Alex’s storyline has been extremely “quiet” lately. Just sayin.
@kayright: Shonda said that 9.23-9.24 was a 2 parts finale and I want them to be bookends to the outstanding amazingness that were 901 and 902. I feel like this season has done a great job at serving a well-paced season arc and I want the finale to pay homage to the character growth that was done this season. I also want to finale to push the focus on the characters that will be front stage in season 10. Hopefully Alex is one of those characters.
L: Can no one die this season? Please? Seriously. I’m still not over Mark. I hope that we see a Cristina/Owen talk by the end of the season about a family and see them moving forward beyond the ‘in limbo’ relationship they have now. I also hope we see a moment of ‘full circle’ from the premiere with all of the characters in the finale at some point.
@safeaudme: I hope that the major theme of Season 9 (“Reclaiming happiness in spite of loss”) has closure before we set up the new theme of S10. They can do it in a lot of ways, but I hope to see it done in parallel stories of McFetus and GSMH.
@silverscwolf: Meredith will be trapped while in labor. Derek won’t be there. I want Alex to deliver the baby, but I don’t think he will. I hope that Jolex are TOGETHER by now. If not, I hope that they will at least be set up to be a driving force for next season. Crowen will be settled by 9.23 and written light. Same with Calzona. Japril will reunite in the chaos. Jackson will struggle in crisis. Bailey will save the day.
@sportsfan12921: for the finale my prediction is that other than board business, Calzona will be fairly quiet. My hope: Final closure about Mark: they sell both apartments and buy a house with a yard and chickens!
What was your favorite story line of the season?
@allie_gg: Strangely enough, I truly enjoyed Arizona’s storyline as an amputee. Although heartbreaking and cruel at times, her journey throughout the season was beautiful. From first struggling with her painfully upsetting fate, to accepting it and then coping with it, it was all very real and extremely well written and played out. Kudos to JCap for successfully executing such a challenging storyline.
@kayright: Arizona’s amputation storyline was the most satisfying for me. The acting was flawless, the moments were powerful, the pacing was realistic and respectful and it did a good job of including other characters, for instance Bailey and Owen.
Gabblers: Welcome- we have decided to have a gabble about season 9 and the ships of Greys Anatomy. We asked our amazing reviewers: @pamfier to give us her insight on MerDer, @sportsfan12921 on Calzona and @silverscwolf on the developing Jolex. We have a special guest reviewer for Crowen who we refer to her as “L”. We hope you enjoy this ship gabble as much as we are. Remember Greys Gabble loves every ship and we will always remain United Nations of Grey
Is there something you would have liked to have seen happen with your ship but did not materialize in Season 9?
@pamfier: It would’ve been interesting to see Meredith and Derek dealing more with their grief over losing Mark and Lexie. I feel that could’ve been a longer storyline in and of itself.
@silverscwolf: During the wedding, I would have liked to have seen Alex and Jo actually talking and confiding in each other over the ‘I had it worse than you’ game they played. More scenes like the one where Jo bought him a couch would have been nice before Chest Peckwell was introduced. The couch and doughnut scenes are tied for my favorites.
@sportsfan12921: would have liked to see 1: more explanation as to why Callie didn’t go to Boise. In my head it’s because Arizona begged her not to get on a plane, especially with Sofia. 2: A more in depth conversation about Callie’s choice to save Arizona’s life over her leg. We got pieces, but not a deep talk.
“L”: Um, I would have liked to have seen Cristina and Owen not divorce…because the marriage was not the source of their problems and did not solve their problems…but that is another rant for another time. I would love to see CO have a place of their own again-I miss them having scenes in the firehouse-and I would love to have seen a moment where Cristina mentions Dr. Thomas to Owen.
Do you think your ship has grown this season? If not -why?
@pamfier: Oh hell yes they’ve grown. They’ve been looking more like a cohesive unit more than ever
@silverscwolf: On Jolex- As of right now, I don’t think Jolex has grown much. They have yet to even be established as a ship. The triangle story needs to be tossed and fast.
@sportsfan12921: Calzona has definitely grown. They are now definitely portrayed as a committed couple. Arizona losing a leg was a LOT to go through and they came through all of it together and I believe stronger and more committed to each other than before. Also, without the Mark crutch, I think Callie will now go to Arizona first. Which is a piece they were missing before, even during S8.
“L”: Cristina/Owen have definitely grown this season. We have seen them put each other first so many times even when they were separated: Owen taking care of Cristina in the wake of the plane crash, Owen asking for a divorce so that Cristina and the others could the lawsuit money, Cristina steadfastly believing that Owen wasn’t responsible for the crash and standing up for him during the lawsuit-they have come a long way from the miscommunications of season 8.
Favorite ship moment of Season 9?
@pamfier: Hands down, when Derek gave Meredith the results of his genetic mapping (“Yeah, I’m a real catch”). I loved everything about that scene. I also loved how Meredith told Derek she was pregnant.
@sportsfan12921: My favorite moment: I am taking the coward’s way out and picking one for each half of the season. First half: the hotel scene when Callie and Arizona are watching TV… the entire “don’t run” and “no way I’m leaving yours” It was awesome. Second half (I reserve the right to change if the buying a house happens ) The x-ray room scene. Perfection, so emotional and real. That’s when I knew that not only were they back but that they were stronger.
“L”: I have three: The bathtub scene where Cristina speaks again for the first time to Owen, showing that he is indeed her person in some ways that Meredith is not, the scrub room scene when Cristina realizes why Owen asks for a divorce, where Owen allows himself to be emotional and vulnerable with her again and we see her assuring him that he was not responsible for the plane crash, and their scene in the on-call room when Owen is lying in Cristina’s lap that shows their intimacy and how comfortable they are with one another.
Review of “She’s Killing Me” by @pamfier
There are very few words that outright chill me to the bone these days the way “Previously on Grey’s Anatomy…” does.
There was a time, oh say, seven or eight seasons ago when I wouldn’t be put on such high alert by a pre-episode recap because that’s how every episode used to start. But then they started using them to subtly signal some major you-know-what was going down and you better pay attention. In fact, I believe the last time we got an on-air recap was 9×01 and/or 9×02 and we all know what happened there.
RIP Mark Sloan. We miss you.
“Patients say it all the time: ‘Tell me straight up. I just want to know what’s going on. Tell me. I can handle it.’ We don’t dodge your questions because we’re mean. We do it because when you say you want the truth, you have no idea what you’re talking about. They say the truth will set you free. What the hell do they know? The truth is horrible. Frightening. The truth is more than you can bear. We’re supposed to be straight with you, so be careful what you ask for when you walk into a hospital. Because when you find out what’s really going on, you may never recover.”
Last episode, we were left with Meredith asking Bailey to test her for the Alzheimer’s gene and here we are waiting for the results. Bailey is hemming and hawing, seemingly to postpone the inevitable dropping of the bomb. Meredith has had enough and wants it straight up, no chaser. “Bailey, you’re my girl and I love you. But if you don’t tell me what I already know right now it’s gonna get real in here real quick.” Bailey, pausing at the emergence of Gangsta Grey, reveals that Meredith has, in fact, tested positive for genetic markers of Alzheimer’s disease.
After their appointment with Bailey, Meredith and Derek make their way downstairs with Mr. Optimistic telling Meredith that just because she tested positive for the risk factors for Alzheimer’s it doesn’t necessarily mean that she’ll actually get it. Really, Derek? This is Meredith Grey, Hands down, one of the unluckiest people on the planet. She knows and we know she’s probably going to get it. With that cloud looming about, it’s time to update the Grey-Shepherd wills because Lexie is listed as Zola’s guardian and, well, Lexie is dead (may she rest in peace). Derek, listen to Mama and just do what she says. I thought we went over this last episode. Get the wills ready and prepare for the worst.
Later on, Derek is in full work mode with Stalker Shane chasing him down with words of love and gifts of caffeine. Some guys just can’t take a hint. Shane wants to know how the patients he’s no longer assigned to are doing. Derek, again, reiterates that he’s no longer his intern and he needs to move on. Fast Hands Brooks shows up (with minty fresh breath, no less) to ask if Derek would like her to follow up on his patients to find Shane has already done it. Shane lets Derek know that his patient, Ms. Dawson, has finally woken up and Derek sends him off to inform Owen. Oh, and thanks for the coffee.
After receiving emails from their lawyers, Derek finds Meredith and tells her they need to update who they want as guardians for Zola and McBaby 2.0. Before it was Cristina, Owen, and Lexie but my how times have changed. Lexie is dead (again, RIP) and Cristina and Owen are divorced. Meredith tosses out Cristina and one of Derek’s sisters as potential new guardians. It seems Derek is the only one who has been paying attention to Cristina these past few years because he actually says what everyone seems to have forgotten: Cristina doesn’t want kids. But Meredith shuts him down saying Cristina will be on board because these are her kids and Cristina will be all for it. This is the part where I think Meredith has pregnancy brain and has forgotten why her best friend is no longer married.